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  • Jun. 4th, 2009 at 8:14 PM
The Girl Is Gone

Sacramento Radio Hosts Encourage Violence Against Transgender Children

 

I almost threw up when I read this.

 

I just... I think of the posts I made yesterday and I just want to laugh. Just laugh incredibly bitterly.


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[info]misora wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
The hateorade in that post is just sad. :(
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is.
[info]nimblnymph wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:25 am (UTC)
I... am so filled with disgust and rage right now I really don't have a coherent response to this.

Expect a diatribe tomorrow morning about these fucking imbeciles.

Edited at 2009-06-05 03:26 am (UTC)
[info]nimblnymph wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:31 pm (UTC)
Diatribe Ahoy! Part One
I just went off on hieron's journal, but I've saved juuuust enough venom to hit your page as well.

First off, there's the fact that this broadcast was made the morning of May 28th... and the radio station did NOTHING about it until June 3rd. That's a full week later. Looks to me like some greedy bastards were hoping to milk the shock publicity cow for all it was worth.

Second, the response that these people were joking? Seriously, that's your excuse? Perhaps my sense of humor isn't as keen as I tend to think it is, because I see absolutely NOTHING humorous about inciting violent acts on a child. Ignore the transgendered, gay and lesbian tags being placed int he dialogue and read what it's saying: CHILDREN should be beaten, verbally abused and made to feel they are worth nothing.

CHILDREN.

I can't believe one of those idiots is a father, firstly for the fact that it saddens me he bred and secondly for his attitude concerning his own child. What parent in their right mind would EVER, jokingly or otherwise, say they would beat their kid for finding the courage to come to them and tell them how they feel. Coming out as being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered is one of the most difficult things anyone can do, and anyone who has done so can attest to that. Just because their sexual preference doesn't fall into what you considered normal or acceptable does NOT make them any less your child. They still have the same favorite foods, favorite songs. They still laugh at the same jokes, grumble about doing chores. Their sexual preference is NOT who they are as a person. And any adult who says they will disown or beath their child because of who they are physically attracted to is NOT a fit parent. Unconditional love, people. That means no matter what, you love them.

I'd like to also touch on something that I've stated time and again; media influence. Arguing this is a small radio station is ridiculous. It's a public broadcast, done at peek listening hours when people are getting ready for their day, driving to work... taking their kids to school. Assuming that adults are the ONLY listeners is just plain stupid. How many parents play the radio in the car when driving their kids to school in the morning? So, during the hours of work and school commute, you're going to try and spread your hatemongering ideals and then claim that you don't have the type of influence people are saying you do? That is total bullshit. BULL. SHIT.

Diatribe Ahoy! Part Two - [info]nimblnymph - Jun. 5th, 2009 05:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]nimblnymph - Jun. 5th, 2009 05:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]redbrunja - Jun. 5th, 2009 09:36 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]qualapec - Jun. 6th, 2009 06:00 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]nimblnymph - Jun. 7th, 2009 04:10 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]redbrunja - Jun. 7th, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]nimblnymph - Jun. 7th, 2009 04:34 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]redbrunja - Jun. 7th, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]nimblnymph - Jun. 8th, 2009 05:30 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Diatribe Ahoy! Part Three - [info]qualapec - Jun. 8th, 2009 12:25 am (UTC) Expand
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[info]wicked_seraph wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:27 am (UTC)
That's sickening, absolutely sickening. It never fails to boggle me how fucking ignorant and hateful some people can be.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 09:37 pm (UTC)
*nods*
[info]kalliel wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:33 am (UTC)
So, I'm glad California's decided to be such a winner. We're going to be the only liberal state, and then the only state PERIOD, advocating hate crimes. And against children, to boot. Because Sacramento is just that fabulous.

Sigh. It's a long, long road. What's described in that post is unspeakably disgusting. You don't have to be transgender. You don't have to advocate it, support it, even be comfortable with the idea of it. But to hate it so fully, so vehemently, and act so childishly derogatorily to the concept, the people? Is disgusting.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 04:29 am (UTC)
A CHILD.

A FUCKING CHILD.

A child is not 'people'. A child is EVERYTHING our biology and culture and evolution tells us it is our duty to protect. That is who you are attacking. A CHILD.

I just have no words.
[info]mildmay wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:39 am (UTC)
That is truly disgusting.

Edited at 2009-06-05 03:40 am (UTC)
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 09:37 pm (UTC)
It is.
[info]the_sun_is_up wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
*tries not to puke*

Actually this is ironic, because I've spent most of the day looking for fanart and raw episodes of Simoun. I'd like to show that series to these fucktards and watch their brains explode.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
I'll hold them down, you hit 'play.'
[info]oceansex wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:45 am (UTC)
The article is saddening, but what's most sickening is the amount of people defending what those DJs said in the comments below. Apparently they claimed they were joking, and anyone who doesn't listen to the show regularly wouldn't understand and have taken what they've said out of context.

Context or no, "joking" about parents beating a confused, defenseless child for something they didn't ask for and can't help is just as awful as being serious.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:08 am (UTC)
Oh, god. Thank god I didn't read the comments.

Hate speech? It's not funny and it's not a joke and frankly, I hope someone presses charges.
[info]okroginator wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC)
what in the name of god is wrong here
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:07 am (UTC)
I wish I knew.
[info]qualapec wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 04:45 am (UTC)
I generally have a pretty specific view of evil. I try to look at something from someone else's perspective before casting any kind of judgement. Understand where I come from when I say this:

States is fucking evil. He's a closed-minded, hate-mongering bigot. Those are the best words I can think of for describing how angry I'm feeling right now.

Anybody who knows ANYTHING about parenting would be disgusted by this.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 04:46 am (UTC)
Anyone who qualifies as worth the oxygen they suck in their lungs each minutes is disgusted by this.
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[info]hieronymousb wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:26 am (UTC)
I saw this on [info]kalliel's LJ, too. You know, I'm not even sure what to say besides I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS FUCKING WRONG WITH PEOPLE; I do not understand why people's harmless adult sexual choices -- and in the case of children, their self-expression in terms of clothing/etc. is threatening for other people. The most benign possible excuse (which this isn't) is that the kids will have it hard later in life, and their parents are concerned, and don't want it to be hard. However, I wish parents would understand that being harsh with a child in such a predicament just makes it harder.

And this isn't even that kind of a thing; this, to me, just smacks of pure out ridiculous bigoted "pride" that, oh, my son won't be no sissy dress-wearer. Whatthefuck. Ugh. Ugh.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 05:40 am (UTC)
Exactly. It's about being threatened and personal ego and just... epic fail.............
[info]despairinbeauty wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 06:15 am (UTC)
o____O...damn...what the hell is wrong with these imbecilic morons, anyways? Oh, I forgot...they are morons, so I shouldn't expect them to not hate people who are homosexual/transgender/bisexual anyways. DDDDDDX
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 12:30 am (UTC)
I wish I knew.
[info]goldengrimoire wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 06:22 am (UTC)
God, this is seriously fucked up. Being bigoted assholes about transgender adults is bad enough, but going after little kids? That's just disgusting.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:35 am (UTC)
It utterly is.
[info]bellzooks wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 06:45 am (UTC)
No words.

I just... no words.

What the fucking hell.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:34 am (UTC)
*hugs*
[info]syl_luvs_silver wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC)
Ah, fuck. This just breaks my heart. It's one thing to hate transgenders; it's another to attack children, and make your hatred verbal. On national radio. People who do so give up their humanity.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:33 am (UTC)
Agreed.
[info]rainbrat wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:05 am (UTC)
That is just disgusting. I feel sorry for their childhood, if they were raised to believe such crap.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:33 am (UTC)
I haven't gotten to a space that zen yet.
[info]tobu_ishi wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:46 am (UTC)
There's a list of all the companies advertising with their radio station, down in the comments. (If you don't want to sort through that trashbag, I can copypaste them for you.) I just sent the following to every. Single. One.

Dear (advertiser),

I am writing to express my disgust and outrage at the comments made during the May 28th segment of KRXQ 98.5 FM Sacramento's Rob, Arnie, & Dawn in the Morning radio talk show, a program you support with your advertising dollars.

The segment in question seriously suggested and broadly encouraged physical and verbal abuse as a method of disciplining children. That the "behavior" being disciplined was transgenderism does not matter to me. That transgenderism may or may not be a choice is completely irrelevant. No child should be shouted at or called a "freak" and an "idiot" for a behavior that harms no-one. No child should be "beaten with a high heeled shoe" for any reason at all.

As a consumer and a young college graduate, an increasingly tolerant demographic most of whom are establishing (something relevant to your product--households, careers) at this stage in our lives and forming permanent spending habits, I strongly suggest that you not associate your brand name with this program or its hosts.

Thank you for your time.
Arijan Clark
Seattle, WA


Three of their advertisers have already pulled out since this segment aired and the public reaction hit. Let's see how many more we can alert to what exactly they're paying for.
[info]devimelete wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 01:47 pm (UTC)
Fuck yes.
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[info]flibbergibbet wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 08:24 am (UTC)
I've been drinking, so this comment may be incoherent.
Because transgendered adults don't get killed often enough by this kind of speech, and hatred, and bigotry: now you've got to get the kids involved, too.

I haven't listened to it, obviously, but reading that article, that is definitely bordering on hate speech, and that's speaking very generously. Like, I think some of that shit is actionable.

I hope those people never become fathers, seriously. They would turn their back on their kids the moment they did something these two fuckers don't like, and that's fundamentally wrong on every level. Forget the Darwin Awards thing about intelligence, I don't think people should be allowed to be parents if they don't understand that you can't make your kids into whatever you want them to be. It's not fair on the parent and it's not fair on the child.

Ugh. This makes me sick.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 01:13 am (UTC)
Re: I've been drinking, so this comment may be incoherent.
Yeah, apparently 'kill 'em off young' is the current motto. It's sickening.

I certainly agree that these people should never, ever, ever breed. Ever.
[info]ryanitenebrae wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 12:51 pm (UTC)
. . .Oh God.


. . .There are no words for the awful hate expressed there. Against children. . . I wish I could make this comment more coherent, but nobody ever deserves to have that sort of hate volleyed at them, let alone children.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 03:21 am (UTC)
Agreed. Way to pick on the smallest, most helpless members of our society, dickheads.
[info]devimelete wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 01:43 pm (UTC)
They are preaching violence against children?

Is there a law that punishes those who advocate violence against children? What they had said borderlines child abuse.
[info]devimelete wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
Oh, jeez, I've just listened to the original audio. This Rob and Arnie goes on about this and when Dawn tries say calmly and rationally that being transgender is all about identity, and not about "being drama queens." Those two guys just walked over her, and just goes on about their biased opinions.

http://www.inlookout.com/wp-content/media/audio/radioshowtrans.mp3
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[info]digthenym wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 01:52 pm (UTC)
It is terrifying that there are people who still think like this, and even worse that there is a significant amount of people who agree with them. The criteria for COMMON FUCKING DECENCY seems to be sorely misplaced.

And children? Little kids? It's just fucking sick. A little boy or girl should not have to be afraid to play dressup. This is ridiculous in a stomach-flopping kind of way.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 03:19 am (UTC)
It is.
[info]xlovelylightx wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 04:54 pm (UTC)
I think I'm going to go down there and strangle the radio hosts myself.

No, honestly if I had the time and money I would go down to Sacramento and strangle those idiots myself just to get rid of the anger I'm feeling right now. Attacking a child like this is unforgivable! What kind of human being would do such a thing?
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 02:46 am (UTC)
Agreed. Those men are scum.
[info]iapetusneume wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 07:40 pm (UTC)
And people wonder why the transgender community has the highest rate of suicide.

This is one of the worst things I've heard in a long time. I actually feel numb, more than anything, because my mind is having trouble comprehending how anyone - especially a father - could say that.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 02:41 am (UTC)
No surprise at all.
[info]sarolynne wrote:
Jun. 5th, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
I've been following this for a couple of days now, and while it's just... fucking painful, and I've ranted about it to others, I can say that many of the shows sponsors have withdrawn. Six, last I heard?

So that might restore just a tiny bit of your faith in humanity.
[info]redbrunja wrote:
Jun. 6th, 2009 02:05 am (UTC)
That's really good to hear.
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